sister, the double tongs please ...
simple attacks, unfortunately only in one direction (Hummer is due!)
ad schizophrenia: I mean absolutely no development or adaptation, but simply state of the notion of "evolution" of a drift (ie, movement) or even denotes connotations, but which is observable only as an updated breakdown. Evolution does not seem to decide whether to flow or break now.
beloved addressee stay quiet for a moment a few inches off the ground, because I agree in the context of systems theoretical considerations on a phenomenological-analytical Level (from the side so it can no objections to the theory given as a system), but consider the concept of evolution of these same considerations for not adequately because undecidable (= "schizophrenic" in popular language use).
Since help thinking of Maturana and Varela even more limited (ascertaining numerical even if they want to make the effects of internal only)
way, there would be another question that you could perhaps save the term:
Is Evolution may therefore only observed internally, but never, however, externally? Evolution is even what one might call a first-order observation of a specific subsystem? Is there therefore a differentiation in the system, that his observation concerned only with the change of the system, although the system would be an observation of 2nd order, but certainly for the Subsystem 1ter right? Perhaps therein lies the Nichtkommunizierbarkeit the drift, because it can be communicated only ex post as the difference? But no, so the state would be the "everything is communication" Lever ...
All roads that I bestride to rescue the concept of evolution will fail.
Oh, Daniel, help! Where is the good Niklas (no, not the good Talcott) deals with the concept? Maybe you can find there a solution (or evolution)?
PS: Is there a state of apparent complexity? (Perhaps as a terrible inflation of the males on the courtship?)
Tuesday, June 6, 2006
Monday, June 5, 2006
Free Letter Of Condolence From Church
sister, caliper please ..
If you agree with me more readily Mr Alberth, we have to have so thoroughly written over one another laughing * cough *...* *...* float away *. ..
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Structural drift of a system is only possible if the system already exists. Is, since a boundary between system and environment and on the system side of the border is, the organizational form an operational unity to: ". Your identity is characterized by a network of dynamic processes that do not exceed the effect of the network"
(Maturana / Varela, Tree of Knowledge, p.100)
Within this system there are specific forms of operation carried out by certain final elements (eg communication in social systems, systems of thought in consciousness).
With each operation, ie, with each self-preservation (soperation), the system's new frontier and differentiates itself from time and again. there is no operation is, there is no system. The operation will burn up as it were, from the moment of completion.
The evolution has taken place, can be seen probably really only in retrospect, because the observers are blind to the current operation, what will be its effects. Empirically will be probably find that there are systems in which only allow very specific communications port communications expected because structures were trained, be expected due to make a function that is given. So we can now - in hindsight watching - that there is a Gastronomic subsystem that can be communicated in the only successful, which is about Tasty / non-Tasty, while not eaten 60Years in National Socialism and Fascism, what political / nationalist " degenerate "was. And with this difference had almost everything else are encoded (illness, politics, art ...).
If you agree with me more readily Mr Alberth, we have to have so thoroughly written over one another laughing * cough *...* *...* float away *. ..
----...---
Structural drift of a system is only possible if the system already exists. Is, since a boundary between system and environment and on the system side of the border is, the organizational form an operational unity to: ". Your identity is characterized by a network of dynamic processes that do not exceed the effect of the network"
(Maturana / Varela, Tree of Knowledge, p.100)
Within this system there are specific forms of operation carried out by certain final elements (eg communication in social systems, systems of thought in consciousness).
With each operation, ie, with each self-preservation (soperation), the system's new frontier and differentiates itself from time and again. there is no operation is, there is no system. The operation will burn up as it were, from the moment of completion.
The evolution has taken place, can be seen probably really only in retrospect, because the observers are blind to the current operation, what will be its effects. Empirically will be probably find that there are systems in which only allow very specific communications port communications expected because structures were trained, be expected due to make a function that is given. So we can now - in hindsight watching - that there is a Gastronomic subsystem that can be communicated in the only successful, which is about Tasty / non-Tasty, while not eaten 60Years in National Socialism and Fascism, what political / nationalist " degenerate "was. And with this difference had almost everything else are encoded (illness, politics, art ...).
Friday, June 2, 2006
Team Paper Plate Award Ideas
But that's my argument
Gee whiz, you're right completely. However, denke ich, dass der Begriff der Evolution diesen Komplexitätssteigerungen und Selektionen nicht gerecht wird.
Maturana/Varela schreiben ja: "Wir sehen die Evolution hier als ein strukturelles Driften bei fortwährender phylogenetischer Selektion. Dabei gibt es keinen 'Fortschritt' im Sinne einer Optimierung der Nutzung der Umwelt, sondern nur die Erhaltung der Anpassung und Autopoiese in einem Prozeß , in dem Organismus und Umwelt in dauernder Strukturkoppelung bleiben" (S. 127).
Also entweder haben wir es mit einem Drift zu tun, dann ensteht eine Bewegung des Übergangs, wie es Maturana/Varela nahelegen oder wir haben es mir einer sprunghaften Komplexitätssteigerung zu tun, denn es lässt sich indeed observe only the difference, but not the process of differentiation (unless you play flip, but then organize the differences after an evolutionary view and one gets always watching what you want and that is and will remain boring and there would be no counter code - that is, the zero -. to 'evolve'
I hereby plead for schizophrenia of evolution and thus indeed for their creativity and productivity, but not for appropriateness as an analytical concept
Gee whiz, you're right completely. However, denke ich, dass der Begriff der Evolution diesen Komplexitätssteigerungen und Selektionen nicht gerecht wird.
Maturana/Varela schreiben ja: "Wir sehen die Evolution hier als ein strukturelles Driften bei fortwährender phylogenetischer Selektion. Dabei gibt es keinen 'Fortschritt' im Sinne einer Optimierung der Nutzung der Umwelt, sondern nur die Erhaltung der Anpassung und Autopoiese in einem Prozeß , in dem Organismus und Umwelt in dauernder Strukturkoppelung bleiben" (S. 127).
Also entweder haben wir es mit einem Drift zu tun, dann ensteht eine Bewegung des Übergangs, wie es Maturana/Varela nahelegen oder wir haben es mir einer sprunghaften Komplexitätssteigerung zu tun, denn es lässt sich indeed observe only the difference, but not the process of differentiation (unless you play flip, but then organize the differences after an evolutionary view and one gets always watching what you want and that is and will remain boring and there would be no counter code - that is, the zero -. to 'evolve'
I hereby plead for schizophrenia of evolution and thus indeed for their creativity and productivity, but not for appropriateness as an analytical concept
Mondeo Outside Temperature Gauge Not Working
Some notes ... to say
... before the feast of the intellect. (Pentecost) crazy ...
makes first: Find the proposal very well and I will look again, where is the Brandy chocolates in the beautifully wrapped box of critical theory are.
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A little about ...
EVOLUTION
evolution of systems theory is NOT: (linear) evolution from worse to better, or perhaps "less viable to viable," but from a level of complexity to another.
The focus is on selection processes that allow variations in the system - ie: You can select specific, not because everything must be selected.
The greater the complexity of a system (that they exist, must have provided be - and they can / will be observed separately by their system limits of their environment), the more evolutionary possibilities (possibilities for change with subsequent re-stabilization) are given to him. That means: The more selections of elements relation can realize it.
The relation of elements created in this way, you know to new / different qualities than the previous years or than the qualities possessed by the individual elements on their own merits. The whole here is more than the sum of its parts and less than the sum of its parts at once.
systems are to be considered but never isolated but always in a systems environment. Although the environment has no Control options (except destruction) and can not be controlled by the system. But she has by mutual irritation impact on system development. Also, in the environment of a system, there are several other systems, which are special environments.
It is expected that there may be more complexity in a system only if other systems could develop in the environment also have a higher complexity in order to meet requirements that one system is now on its environment, but their solution It even does not accept.
It is not clear who was first developed - the system or its environment - but it is Co-Evolution . An example is the co-evolution of social systems and consciousness systems, but also the evolution of individual social systems in modernity, but for the same evolution of other social systems that take each own unfulfilled tasks that would not have been possible (the science system is rely on in the environment, someone cares about politics and the economy, and the economy is not without science and policy in its present form possible). About Structural coupling, individual elements so even used by multiple systems together (eg certificates), but after intrinsic specific Process further processed (Economics: setting skills; Science: Career differentiations (?)).
... before the feast of the intellect. (Pentecost) crazy ...
makes first: Find the proposal very well and I will look again, where is the Brandy chocolates in the beautifully wrapped box of critical theory are.
---------...----------------
A little about ...
EVOLUTION
evolution of systems theory is NOT: (linear) evolution from worse to better, or perhaps "less viable to viable," but from a level of complexity to another.
The focus is on selection processes that allow variations in the system - ie: You can select specific, not because everything must be selected.
The greater the complexity of a system (that they exist, must have provided be - and they can / will be observed separately by their system limits of their environment), the more evolutionary possibilities (possibilities for change with subsequent re-stabilization) are given to him. That means: The more selections of elements relation can realize it.
The relation of elements created in this way, you know to new / different qualities than the previous years or than the qualities possessed by the individual elements on their own merits. The whole here is more than the sum of its parts and less than the sum of its parts at once.
systems are to be considered but never isolated but always in a systems environment. Although the environment has no Control options (except destruction) and can not be controlled by the system. But she has by mutual irritation impact on system development. Also, in the environment of a system, there are several other systems, which are special environments.
It is expected that there may be more complexity in a system only if other systems could develop in the environment also have a higher complexity in order to meet requirements that one system is now on its environment, but their solution It even does not accept.
It is not clear who was first developed - the system or its environment - but it is Co-Evolution . An example is the co-evolution of social systems and consciousness systems, but also the evolution of individual social systems in modernity, but for the same evolution of other social systems that take each own unfulfilled tasks that would not have been possible (the science system is rely on in the environment, someone cares about politics and the economy, and the economy is not without science and policy in its present form possible). About Structural coupling, individual elements so even used by multiple systems together (eg certificates), but after intrinsic specific Process further processed (Economics: setting skills; Science: Career differentiations (?)).
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